Please stop it. It's making me sick. And it's proving that the left has no monopoly on tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.
And this sorry excuse . . . ? Tell me something: Would any of you blog readers out there accept that explanation (rationalization) from someone at the New York Times?
I know you wouldn't.
"I have more information! I just can't share it with you yet!"
Oh God, oh Lord, would this man please fuck OFF.
You were all outraged when Daily Kos painted the security contractors as "merceneries," weren't you? Suggested that their deaths meant nothing? Suggested that they deserved it? Oh, so indignant. So disgusted. So righteously outraged.
Well, passing around the kind of speculation you're passing around about Berg is no better. Oh, I know: No one's actually come out and suggested Berg deserved to die yet. You know better than to do that. You're just "raising questions," knowing that the questions you're raising are likely to lead to one very ugly set of answers.
I hope you're getting lots of traffic out of being a bunch of lowlife bastards. If only you could all choke on it.
You're welcome.
UPDATE 05/15/2004: I have the clarification itch (and the prescription is . . . ?): It is the sensationalist tone and treatment of the subject which enrages me, and the blame for that can be heaped mainly at the feet of one guy: Paul at Wizbang. Thus, the title of this post probably should not have read, "Dear Every Damn Blogger . . . ."
I am aware of at least two other bloggers who gave the subject the dignity it deserves and exercised appropriate restraint: Ace of Spades, and Venomous Kate. If you're seeking followups to this whole affair, you would do well to check back with either of them.
For a thorough roundup of material on Nick Berg, keep checking back to Judith Weiss's post at Kesher Talk. It's updated as new information arrives, and actually contains links to several pieces which flatly contradict some of the wilder speculations out there. A little research is a beautiful thing, no?
Finally: You think this issue bothered me? Fool, you ain't seen nothin' yet.
An apology to anyone who came here looking for an amusing anecdote 'bout a Pizza Hut. I'm no longer in the mood to write a fun happy story. I'm in the mood to hit things. Can I give you a rain check?
Posted by Ilyka at May 14, 2004 09:06 PM in hell is other peopleIt seems to me you are just whining.
The guy had a legitimate scoop. If he said one single line he thinks he should have phrased better, so be it.
He had very few people criticize him but he stepped up to the plate and said he learned a lesson, unlike your pal Kos who deleted the post and tried to claim it never happened.
The events surrounding Nick Berg are bizarre to say the least. Can you deny that?
Posted by: Bert at May 14, 2004 09:35 PMIt seems to me woefully unfair that I have to share the planet with the kind of people whose primary thought upon watching that video is "not enough blood spurts out."
Fuck off.
Posted by: ilyka at May 14, 2004 09:50 PMI think it's important to figure out how Nick Berg came into the custody of those who did as they did, and it's important to figure out as much as we can about the situation -- if that brings bad things to light, then so be it... HOWEVER
I sincerely hope nobody uses that to excuse the practice. To wit, if he WAS a terrorist conspirator, he may not be as worthy of our sympathy, but that shouldn't make the act of beheading him any less gruesome or disgusting.
I'm not sure how much sense that makes now that I've written it out. It makes sense in my head.
Posted by: Pete at May 14, 2004 10:12 PMI don't think it can rightly be called a "scoop" when nothing has been verified as yet.
Except the fact that Nick Berg was buried today.
Innocent until proven guilty, even in face of wild speculation.
Posted by: Lachlan at May 14, 2004 10:54 PMUm. Nearly everyone who commented in that post criticized Paul.
Scoop? What scoop? He had unverified information that someone told him was true. BFD. I can put a story on my website that someone told me the Pope is really a Jew, with as many hints as Paul used, and you'd all see it for what it is: Bullshit.
And I'm still trying to figure out why, if Berg was in with Al Qaeda, they killed him. I got the feeling that they LIKED having people who could get in and out of the U.S. and Israel without setting off the terrorism alarms.
Posted by: Meryl Yourish at May 15, 2004 06:06 AMIf this guy is dirty and one of these terrorists consipirators then he had part in killing the thousands at the World Trade center, odd how justice can be served at the hands of those you helped!! Nick Berg at the hands of Al Quaeda
Posted by: Raptor at May 15, 2004 06:35 AMNow Paul closed the comments on that post after lambasting me.
Great blogging there, Paul.
Posted by: Meryl Yourish at May 15, 2004 04:37 PMSomehow, Meryl, I am not at all surprised.
Posted by: Lachlan at May 15, 2004 06:56 PMThis reminds me of the incident where some lefty blogger (now revealing myself as being really bad with names sometimes...) who basically accused one of the 4 Fallujah contractors who were burned and strung up as being a major player in the white supremacy movement because of a same name. Never checked her facts and got her ass deservedly handed to back to her on a platter.
I think it's great that stories get broken in the blogosphere, or at least expounded upon in a way the liberal media would never touch, but it's imperative not to give into the 'you heard it here first' bug at the expense of checking the validity of what you are saying.
Posted by: willow at May 16, 2004 04:00 PMOne thing I have been wondering, but not wanted to put in a main article in my blog, is whether we don't make a mistake to go out of our way tnote that Berg was Jewish.
At first it wasn't clear whether his killers would have known that but now we know they probably had to. That said, while it's undoubtedly true, it's also frightening to me that we would continually remind Americans that the guy was Jewish rather than just noting that he was an American.
While America is not a particularly anti-semitic nation, I hate to do anything which encourages people to start thinking, "Ack, the fucking Jews, let them work out their shit with the arabs it's not our problem."
No, I don't think most people think that way, and no, that doesn't mean shut up and pretend he wasn't Jewish. I merely worry that too much angry and loudly pointing it out may be the wrong emphasis.
Means more if you're Jewish I'm sure, but to me what's important is that an American was killed. They didn't reach out and pick a random Jew from Australia or Mexico or Brazil. They picked an American, and it's Americans they want to kill. Jewish American? Bonus! If you see what I mean.
Posted by: Dean Esmay at May 16, 2004 07:23 PMGET OVER YOURSELF PAL!!
Posted by: joe at May 17, 2004 02:54 AMAnd let's continue to let everyone know what a little bitch Paul is.
I linked back to his post but he felt the need to send me an email pissing and whining and dripping snot all down the front of him stating I was too coward to link back to him....what the hell does he think that link is?
To top it off, his sorry, sick, demented backside didn't even leave a valid email to reply to.
Just his reaction alone is all the proof I need that not a thing he writes is worth reading.
Posted by: Serenity at May 17, 2004 03:51 AMThe thing about noting that Berg is Jewish, Dean: It's relevant. Berg was held in Iraqi prison because they thought he was an Israeli spy. He had an Israeli stamp on his passport, and a Jewish last name.
We're not going out of our way to mention it. The major media are ignoring Berg's Jewishness. It is a silence that needs to be rectified.
It mattered that Berg was Jewish. It should not be ignored.
While America is not a particularly anti-semitic nation, I hate to do anything which encourages people to start thinking, "Ack, the fucking Jews, let them work out their shit with the arabs it's not our problem."
No, I don't think most people think that way, and no, that doesn't mean shut up and pretend he wasn't Jewish. I merely worry that too much angry and loudly pointing it out may be the wrong emphasis.
Two problems with that way of thinking: In the first place, only a Jew-hater would think that American Jews are any less American. So I don't care about the person in your first example. Those types are already lost to us.
In the second place, when we stop emphasizing Jew-hatred because it might not be Jew-hatred, we get more dead Jews. You don't need to look very far back in history. It's happening right now throughout Europe and Canada, and it happened in America at a Los Angeles airplane ticket counter. And on a highway in New York City, years ago.
too much angry and loudly pointing it out
I'm not seeing it. And I will not stop pointing out Jew-hatred because some might think I'm being too loud or too angry (that's a generic some, not you). Fuck 'em. It's me and mine who will suffer for it. I'll be as loud and as angry as I need to be.
Posted by: Meryl Yourish at May 17, 2004 04:25 AM"This reminds me of the incident where some lefty blogger (now revealing myself as being really bad with names sometimes...) who basically accused one of the 4 Fallujah contractors who were burned and strung up as being a major player in the white supremacy movement because of a same name. Never checked her facts and got her ass deservedly handed to back to her on a platter."
That would be Kathryn Cramer at http://www.kathryncramer.com/wblog/ , who then tried to play victim and accused Charles at LGF of sending his lizards over to attack her. She complained to his host, too, but apparently wouldn't give them whatever evidence she claimed to have. Fitting for this topic here, no?
PS: She doesn't seem to understand why her post about Nick Berg on May 13 generated so many hits from search engines. A little dense, if you ask me.
Posted by: Graves at May 17, 2004 04:36 AM The Video is a fake, no blood.
The only fact is he's dead. When and where have yet to be determined. You cant cut off a head with No Blood.
I must point out that there are a number of Arabs who are also American, and for those of us who live in such areas it's quite tempting to see the Arab/Jew conflict in ambivalent terms. Their Americanism is not what's in question; I have a number of friends who are very shallow on the Israel question who say things like this, that it's just Arabs vs. Jews and not our problem--and it's not because they dislike Jews, but because they don't know much.
I do not like the notion that we emphasize Berg's Jewishness for this reason, for most people refuse to educate themselves on this issue. If they start thinking of it as an Arab/Jew problem, we've all got problems.
My buddy Moe tells me that he and most of his Orthdox friends, the week of 9/11, were terrified. In their synagogue, and others he knew of, they were told to prepare for the distinct possibility that the Jews would be blamed for 9/11. I think he would kind of get what I'm pointing to here.
If we do enough loud anger that "they want Jews, they kill Jews," pretty soon it becomes tempting for many pefectly decent people to say, "well, maybe if you're Jewish, you should stay away from that part of the world."
Not good, not good.
I dunno, maybe I'm wrong. Still, I prefer to think of him as another American victim. If you're Jewish, however, I can hardly blame you (generic "you") for feeling more strongly about it.
Posted by: Dean Esmay at May 18, 2004 01:42 PM