April 03, 2006

In the Words of Others

Two posts that hit me on a personal level about women and faith: Jill of Feministe on God and abortion rights, and Dooce on Mormons, polygamy, and the overall status of women in the Mormon faith.

I don't have much to add to either, except this tidbit on the Mormon thing: The day my seminary teacher ended an argument with me about whether polygamy would occur in the afterlife by asking me, "If you want to breed chickens, how many roosters do you need?" was, though not the day I actually left that church, the day I knew I one day very, very soon would leave that church. It cemented the whole deal in my mind--or more accurately, the revolting smirk on the face of that man as he asked that question did.

(You know, I'd still like to kick that guy in the balls. Brother Searle, wherever you are, please know that yea verily, thou art a douchebag.)

And I did leave that church. For anyone who wonders why, then, I would turn around years later and convert to Catholicism, another religion often accused of assigning second-class citizen status to its women, I can only offer this: Because when you've been taught to compare women to breeding hens, a religion that teaches you to call on them for intercession with the Almighty is actually a mind-blowing upgrade.

I should add that Jill is kicking all kinds of ass lately, as with this post about ugly feminists, which as we know is really all feminists. You know what I like to do sometimes? I like to sit and wonder how feminists can be simultaneously ugly and promiscuous. It's like pondering the sound of one hand clapping for me.

Posted by Ilyka at April 3, 2006 09:25 AM in hell is other people

I've been reading your blog for a few weeks and had no idea you were once Mormon. My favorite seminary moment was when my teacher told me, very matter-of-factly, that it was just too bad my family couldn't be together in the celestial kingdom, since my parents were divorced. I tried to argue with him, since I knew that my mother had never broken any of her covenants and therefore, hadn't forfeited her chance at a "forever family," but he wouldn't budge. Nice, eh?

Posted by: Margo at April 3, 2006 06:29 PM

My paternal grandmother was a Mormon

Who hid the booze and cigarettes before a visit from the elders.


Posted by: Darleen at April 3, 2006 09:08 PM
Who hid the booze and cigarettes before a visit from the elders.

Oh yeah, we have a few like that in the family too. "Oh look, it's almost time for me to renew my temple recommend; time to stash the booze down the basement."

Posted by: ilyka at April 4, 2006 06:52 AM

I've known quite a few Mormon elders who were douchebags....

Thanks for the laugh!

Posted by: caltechgirl at April 5, 2006 12:27 PM